master
11:05 Thu Sep 23
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Followed by "we're moving on". Just for completeness.
Still appears to be an entirely empty gesture to me making very little positive difference and incrementally making quite a bit of negative difference.
And no that doesn't mean turning people into stupid racist knobs.
It just means that this knee taking allows many to pretend that something concrete is being done, without actually having to do anything meaningful with any actual effort or output on their part. How is that smoke and mirrors bullshit a 'solution'?
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Manuel
11:00 Thu Sep 23
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master - To be fair he didn't quite say that, and wouldn't even dare say that. What he said was ''it's good to hear the crowd applaud the players taking the knee, in fact players that don't take the knee are now the ones being booed''
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Moncurs Putting Iron
10:56 Thu Sep 23
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master 10:21 Thu Sep 23
I think that should happen. Would be funny.
8 of the team take the knee, 2 link arms and one points to the badge.
All get booed by people who do n0t agree with their actions.
That's the thing about Booing unlike clapping there is little or no nuance.
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master
10:21 Thu Sep 23
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Martin Tyler reckons the players who don't take the knee should be getting booed.
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Alfs
5:19 Thu Sep 23
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The big question that everyone is avoiding is what would have Douglas Bader thought?
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bigfrank
5:00 Thu Sep 23
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Well done Marky boy, certainly going to rattle a few leftie cages. Judging by the comments, you already have 😂.
Why would anyone take the knee fot a anti white organisation that caused a summer of riots in the U.S and here, defaced the Cenotaph, attempted to burn the UNION JACK, who's aims are to destroy the nucler family, western democracy.
Since BLM over a hundred black children some white too have been murdered by guess who? Black mickey mouse gangsters. Any mention from BLM? Of course not.
Then you have the racism on social media, if you look at the usernames and profiles of those that send the abuse, more then half are from India, Saudi's, PAKIstani's. But lets blame the UK. Then we have, these black ghetto hood rats who racially abuse black people that are more intellectual then them. To top it off you still have Trevor Sinclair in the game. Didn't he racially abuse a white copper? So much for kick it out.
Why don't these bentley driving prima donnas tackle knife crime, Paedophilia?
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connolly8
12:50 Thu Sep 23
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Fair play to him for standing up against the mob rule.
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Hermit Road
11:25 Wed Sep 22
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It turns something that is no issue into an issue. Fed up with players taking the knee? Ignore it for ten seconds of your life. Easy really.’
That is a complete inversion of what is actually happening.
It was a non issue for the 150 years of football matches played when players didn’t start the game on their knee. It became an issue when they started kneeling.
At best, you could perhaps say the people reacting are making a bigger issue. And now Alonso has made a really big issue out of it by daring not to do as he’s told.
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Eerie Descent
10:48 Wed Sep 22
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"May I address you personally? I'm afraid you need to go about getting a new WHO username, Wils - this isn't going away."
HAHAHA
You are such a fucking doughnut, Fritzl.
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Hammer and Pickle
9:40 Wed Sep 22
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Still trying to gather my faculties here as the OP has actually admitted he sees the players taking the knee as an accusation, and a personal one at that.
May I address you personally? I'm afraid you need to go about getting a new WHO username, Wils - this isn't going away.
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Wils
9:38 Wed Sep 22
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Anyway. !0 mins to kick off. Time to settle into my armchair for 10 seconds of booing.
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chim chim cha boo
9:32 Wed Sep 22
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Mike, what a nonsense argument. Why don't the white player wear a hair shirt during a game too?
I thought that you were better than that
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Mike Oxsaw
9:26 Wed Sep 22
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Why can't they take the knee in the dressing room if it means what it is claimed it means, before they come out onto the pitch?
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Hammer and Pickle
9:26 Wed Sep 22
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No, let’s be clear about this - you see the players’ respect, my respect and everyone else’s respect as an accusation and a threat.
Sorry mate. How will you ever get over it?
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Wils
9:23 Wed Sep 22
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It is not even claimed to be a gesture of respect. It's an anti-racism gesture.
But imagine if he was correct. He thinks the players are getting on their knees as a gesture of respect to black people. WTF!
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Wils
9:16 Wed Sep 22
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"Taking the knee is intended as a gesture of respect."
I see it as an accusation. As do many others.
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Mike Oxsaw
9:14 Wed Sep 22
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So, somebody tells you that taking the knee is a gesture of respect and you agree with that because it fluffs up your comfort blanket.
Fuck me! Who is the one being duped here?
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Hammer and Pickle
9:11 Wed Sep 22
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Monkey chants are intended as an insult.
Taking the knee is intended as a gesture of respect.
This is very simple and it is obvious your intention is to present West Ham fans as affective disorder social cases. I'm quite sure you wouldn't dare to do anything of the kind in a face-to-face situation.
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Stepney.Ammer
9:09 Wed Sep 22
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Taking the knee is a load of political bollocks for sure but didn't this cunt kill a women whilst driving pissed a few years back and then buy his way out of having to do bird?
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Wils
9:03 Wed Sep 22
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chim chim cha boo 8:45 Wed Sep 22
"It turns something that is no issue into an issue. Fed up with players taking the knee? Ignore it for ten seconds of your life. Easy really."
Don't like the monkey chants? Ignore them. How long do they last? 10 seconds?
Doesn't quite work does it.
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Mike Oxsaw
8:50 Wed Sep 22
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Hmmm.
It seems somebody has dragged the debate, as it was, into the playground.
I'm right in what I say and that will never change, but I'll leave the rest of you to bicker over the scraps.
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